Women Threaten Obama Boycott
UPDATE: The Clinton Supporters Count Too website.
UPDATE: More on what you can do:
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UPDATE: Radio Talk Show Host Steve Corbett from Hillary’s home town in PA Has launch a mass campaign called OPERATION TURN DOWN letting the DNC know we will TURN DOWN OBAMA. we Will NOT vote from him under Any circumstance and he talks about their treatment of Sen Clinton. People called in from all over the states saying NO OBAMA. Hillary supporters now have a voice that will reach MILLIONS. Tomorrow OPERATION TURN DOWN continues at 3 p.m est this is going to grow MASSIVE LISTEN TO HIS SHOW.
UPDATE: Ruccio will appear on Bill O’Reilly at 11 Eastern.
UPDATE: Mystic4Hill: For anyone who’s interested, their group is currently in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida. Email addresses are:
HCFPinOH@gmail.com
HCFPinPA@gmail.com
HCFPinFL@gmail.com
HCFPinMI@gmail.com
Cynthia Ruccia, in Ohio, has started a group for women who will not support Barack Obama for president under any circumstances. The group’s name is Clinton Supporters Count Too. It is not outwardly associated with the growing Democrats for McCain movement, or the corresponding Latinos for McCain or LGBT for McCain movements.
The treatment Obama and his supporters have given Hillary Clinton and her supporters makes it seem highly unrealistic that the bulk of Clinton’s base would ever line up behind Obama, should he be the nominee. So, definitively, Hillary Clinton wants a Democrat to win in the fall, but her supporters largely feel she is the only Democratic candidate they will back. The consensus is: if not President Hillary Rodham Clinton, then it will be President John Sidney McCain.
ABC:
I’ve posted a few times in the last two days about female supporters of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton who are angry — at the Democratic Party, at the Obama campaign, or at the general situation that sees their candidate facing tough times, in their view, in part because of sexism.
Just talked to a 55-year-old Columbus, Ohio resident named Cynthia Ruccia, a spokesperson and organizer for a group calling itself “Clinton Supporters Count Too.” She said the group — numbering in the hundreds, and organized in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan — stands ready to boycott the Democratic Party if Clinton doesn’t win the nomination, and will work against superdelegates who support Obama over Clinton as a means of registering their displeasure with the party.
“We have a plan to campaign against the Democratic nominee,” the group said in a press release Thursday. “We have the (wo)manpower and the money to make our threat real. And there are millions of supporters who will back us up in the swing states. If you don’t listen to our voice now, you will hear from us later.”
Ruccia tells ABC News that she believes “millions” of women share her group’s views, though they have only begun to make contact with like-minded women. They’re disgusted, she said, that Democratic Party leaders haven’t more aggressively denounced sexist media comments and coverage in the campaign, and are angry at the drumbeat for Clinton to get out of the race.
“We’re just at the boiling point,” Ruccia said. “Women will sit back and be quiet about things for a while, but we’ve had enough. Unless Hillary Clinton is our nominee, we are not going to support the nominee.”
Part of their plan, she said, is a primary-night boycott of NBC and MSNBC during next Tuesday’s primaries in Kentucky and Oregon, particularly to protest comments made by Chris Matthews and David Shuster that her group feels were sexist.
Ruccia said she doesn’t necessarily view the disqualifying of delegates from Florida and Michigan as sexist in itself, but added: “I do believe the people there will not forget that Sen. Obama stood in the way of having their vote counted.”
This is one group, and not a very large one at this point. But in gauging the fallout among female voters of this divisive campaign, it’s also worth keeping in mind what’s going on in the wake of NARAL Pro-Choice America’s decision to endorse Obama on Wednesday.
As documented by the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein, NARAL blogs are being overwhelmed, and many state affiliates are angry at the national group’s decision.
Emily’s List is furious. And Martha Burke, former chair of the National Council of Women’s Organizations, tells Stein she is “disappointed”: “It feels like they are abandoning a known ally for a less committed candidate because they want to jump on a bandwagon. I think the pro-choice community should stick by a woman who has stuck by them.”
It’s impossible to know at this point how big an issue this would be for Obama if he’s the nominee. But clearly he would have some major work to repair rifts inside the party — even if little of it is his fault, directly.
Filed under: Clinton Campaign, Clinton supporters
If anyone knows how to reach Cynthia Ruccia, please let those of us who would like to join her organization know. I’ve been googling, but can’t find anything.
Thanks!
The only information I have is that Ruccia lives in the Columbus, Ohio area. I found her name in the white pages, but no further information was given.
I found this through google. She was an OH organizer. #(614) 239-8928
As a male voter I am behind you 100%. The DNC will not allow any attack against Obama at the expense of everyone. Your group is the strongest voice to lead this fight. Hillary is devoted to women and children rights but still is loyal to her party. It is up to us then to take to the task at hand and stop Obama, his superdelegate supporters, and the DNC. They will steal the nomination from you ( and me for that matter)! My partner can call me sweetie, but I would not except any man to say that to a women outside of a personal relationship.
Thanks, donnadarko. I also just saw a YouTube video of Cynthia being interviewed by Bill O’Reilly. For anyone who’s interested, their group is currently in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida. Email addresses are:
HCFPinOH@gmail.com
HCFPinPA@gmail.com
HCFPinFL@gmail.com
HCFPinMI@gmail.com
Yes, the Michigan and Florida voters should be heard from. The problem is definitely one of “justice delayed is justice denied,” however.
Having played high school and college sports, I know that a team or individual plays differently from behind than from ahead. In this case, Obama obtained his lead because of MI and FL being disenfranchised, and the press, Democratic Party, etc. viewed things very differently than if Hillary had that lead. Perhaps she could have had the slim margin and Obama could have heard the constant barrage of “Get out, you’re hurting the party.”
Add me to the boycott. There are definitely worse things than voting McCain. I think of him as more of an Independent than a Republican anyway.
Jessica, he is definitely a Republican!!!!!
Write in Hillary or vote Cynthia McKinney!!
Go Hillary or Go Green!
Women, Latinos, LGBT for McCain… Where’s are Asians, Catholics, Working Class, Elderly and Baby Boomers for McCain?
THANK YOU!!! Add me to the list, HILLARY Has been politically raped. I join the boycott.
Congrats guys, you’re selling the country down the river over your childishness
Hillary has reached the apex of her career, not because of gender, but because of personality. She’ll never be president. All you’re doing is making certain that the GOP has eight years to further wreck the country, trillions in debt, continuation of war, further erosion of healthcare and a stacking of conservative judges on the bench
Please let us know where to send donations, and who to contact to start a recall of Howard Dean, We need to be heard now.
Hey ladies (and male allies): Check out axt113’s comment above. We are KIDS who are RUINING the PARTY and the COUNTRY. OMG!!!!!
As a lifelong Dem. I am ashamed of the party and the shenanigans the National has pulled to get Hillary out of the race. They should be unbiased, as should the media which at this point is a joke.
I have withheld any contribution or membership to the DNC because of this and only contributing to Hillary and her supporters. After all, money talks the loudest in this Country. Make your opinion know to the DNC and Howard(should keep his mouth shut) Dean.
Mary,
You can donate here:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/
THANK YOU!!! KIMBERLY AND CYNTHIA FOR be FOX NEWS ,PLEASE Add me to the list.
IS VERY SAD AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS WOMEN
(AMERICANS, SPANISH-LATINAS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS-KOREANS, FILIPINAS, INDIAS, VIETNAMIST ,ETC……………
WORK SO VERY HARD ,STILL SOME MAN THINK
WE ARE SENCOND CLASE.
I FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT KIMBERLY, I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN, if DNC KEEP DOING THE INCORRECT DECISIONS.
As a lifelong Dem. I am ashamed of the party and the shenanigans the National has pulled to get Hillary out of the race. VICK I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
This is an address I found for checks for the ad campaign — I sent one less than an hour ago
Women Count PAC
c/o Gabe Camarillo
The Sutton Law Firm, PC
150 Post St
suite 405
San Francisco, Ca 84108
??? 732-7700
Of course, I have sent Hillary checks but this we need to do on our own. The “sweetie” remark was the tipping point for me in rage.
I have watched the Rezko case from the inception, being an Illinoisan, but if some have not gotten the low down, see Pringle’s series which brings all the pieces together for an easy read of over 60 pages.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/genera_evelyn_p_080516_curtain_time_for_bar.htm
this is the latest in the series
the entire series can be accessed at scoops news site, or on Rezkowatch.
Sorry if this is old news, but I just found this site.
I am so happy to see people who are going to fight for Hillary. Please post links to any of the organizations or groups so that others can participate.
I definitely will not ever cast my vote of Obama.
What else can we do????
My husband and I have watched this campaign from the beginning and are appalled at the unrelenting nasty, sexist and downright insulting comments directed at Hillary. We’re disgusted with the media, specifically CNN and MSNBC, because they’re so biased against her and they don’t even try to hide it! The DNC and Howard Dean are in the same category for working against Hillary’s interests.
Although we’re recently retired, we’re very involved in our community and socially active, and if we hear one more comment from the undereducated “strategists” trotted out nightly by the media about how the “elderly” are voting against him because he’s black, we’ll scream! We’re the generation that opened the doors to civil rights and women’s rights. We’re against Obama because he’s NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT!!
DNC and media take notice- you cannot force your candidate on us. I am a Democrat who is ashamed and disgusted by your bias against Senator Clinton and your obvious disregard of ethics in this primary process.
I will not vote for Obama. I will not vote for any Obama ticket. I pray that Senator Clinton does not belittle herself by being on a ticket with Obama. I will vote for John McCain.
Go Operation Turn Down!
I will not let the news media elect our next president. This is what has put B. Obama in the position he is in. I will vote for McCain if Senator Clinton is not the nominee. Think of it, we will control both houses so McCain could only do what we say he can and in four years Hillary will be our President.
I am so disappointed at how the Media Treated Hillary Clinton
I will only vote for Hillary, If I have to I will vote McCain.
Put me on any list to help Hillary and to boycott Obama. This campaign has been disgusting and it is to Hillary’s credit that she gets up every morning and campaigns her heart out. I have sent many e mails to Terry McCaullife at her campaign and Howard Dean regarding the outrageous conduct of the media, particularly MSNBC and CNN’s Jack Cafferty. I believe suit should be filed to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates and for an injunction stopping the nomination of Obama until this is resolved. I say GO TO THE CONVENTION, failing gaining the nomination, HILLARY SHOULD RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. Terry’s e mail is tmccauliffe@hillaryclinton.com.
I agree with Ron M. 100%! The wave of no vote for Obama is growing daily. Senator McCain will be pleasantly surprised when he receives thousands of votes from Democrats.
I hope Obama is not a sore loser!!
Hillary 2012!
I heartily agree that Hillary has been treated in a truly terrible, sexist way by our male dominated press and political process. And I am also adamant that something should be done so this kind of slash and rape does not continue. However, I’m very anxious about the turn things are taking. By swinging our votes to McCain rather than supporting Obama if Hillary doesn’t make the primary, we are supporting a killing field. That has to matter! In the last eight years, the Bush administration has drained trillions of dollars out of our economy and has caused so much sorrow and left so many people dead that the body counts will never be accurate. And he’s also left a lot of our own promising young soldiers crippled, brain damaged, and paralyzed with his warhawk attitude. If there was justice, he’d be hanging from the Whitehouse balcony. McCain supports continuing Bush’s phony war! Is that what we really want? As women, we need to make our voices heard, but not at the expense of the many thousands of lives that will be taken if McCain, another warhawk, gets into office! We need to stop fighting in Iraq and pay attention to the damage we’re doing to our planet, before it’s too late for ALL of us! So if Hillary doesn’t make the primary, then I will swing my vote to Obama as the lesser of two evils.
I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not nominated. Shame on the DNC for trying to fix this nomination for Obama. Yes, I know we will be in Irax longer with McCain. Yes, I know he will nominate a conservative to the Supreme Court. I don’t care. At this point Obama is not experience enough to be president and I do not appreciate the media and the DNC trying to manipulate the nomination of Obama.
Shame on the DNC and especially the media! As a woman who has broken 2 glass ceilings I am totally disgusted. There were horrible things said and done to me while I was breaking those barriers that I won’t talk about. So to see that the good old boy network is still OPENLY in operation infuriates me. Obama’s arrogance to think he has the credentials to be President after 1 year in the Senate is an outrage! I will never vote for him because he isn’t qualified. Hillary Clinton is experienced, responsible and tough enough to clean up the mess Bush will leave from day ONE. Count me in the Clinton Supporters Count Too. Let me know how to contact them and I will work deligently to help Obama lose.
How do we reach you and join the group?
How do we reach you and join the group to boycott
Obama?
You’re not going to like this one, but I have to say it:
Voting for McCain will compromise the reproductive rights of all women. He is committed to replacing reasonable judges with more conservatives. Voting for McCain will extend the war and cost many more lives, cause many more serious disabilities, and ruin families. Voting for McCain will enable corporations to continue to earn record profits while the middle class suffers. Voting for McCain will make us keep begging the Saudis for oil.
I understand the anger felt by those posting on this website, but there are many ways to protest and express your anger. Electing John McCain will only hurt women and families, and won’t hurt Obama.
I am concerned about women’s issues, and think we need to keep the bigger picture in mind and place our anger where it will be helpful.
Susan, thanks for taking the risk of speaking truth to power here at H1K for all of us wandering lost in the wilderness…
Spare us. Perhaps you missed the “Note on Voting” page we have here?
Please go to Obama’s website. Have a look in his Issues page. Nowhere on that page does reproductive rights see a mention. His “support” of this bedrock (from reproductive rights do all other equality issues spring) right of women is tepid at best. He doesn’t see it as an actual issue. He makes no mention of SCOTUS appointments.
That is very very troubling, IMHO it’s something he’d be willing to throw away to the other side to gain support for some future measure to gain bipartisan support. (Democracy is compromise, is this something he’d compromise with… lives of women?) Otherwise he’d be out there like Clinton is, standing firm and clearly stating a position on the issue, as an issue.
The current NARAL leadership I’m afraid has gotten what I’m calling “Dowd Syndrome”. They’re victims of charisma, just like all those followers of those “born again” preachers on the far right. (BTW…they teach that in their seminaries) Really discredits them in my eyes.
So I’m shopping for a third party if Clinton’s not the democratic nominee, or I’ll write her in should my choices not make it to the NY ballot,
Susan… please keep this in mind in November. There are too many younger women who don’t know what it was like before Roe. They take the decision for granted. A charismatic politican is now taking them for granted. We don’t know what the outcome of that will be.
The media is interested in entertaining each other and ratings.
Bill Clinton said it best the media have their healthcare and charge
the gas to the networks. I find Bill taking a true interest in a wife’s
desire to run and getting involved remarkable given how many people
when a mate or friend decide to attempt anything tell them to go
ahead, “do your thing.”
I don’t think you need to tell people not to vote what the DNC says
to. I just either won’t vote DNC or media.
Thank you all for caring
I cannot believe that this primary is just as hateful as the last presidential campaign. I stopped donating money to NPR because of their treatment of Kerry. (If I had known what Kerry obviously thinks about women then, I’d be richer now.) But the obvious thing is that most of the media no longer thinks they are to report the news without bias, they have decided to take sides, and if possible, to create the news. They, since the primaries, have decided who the “serious” candidates would be, by practically excluding all the Democrats, except Hillary and Barack, during the debates. Now, Hillary is excluded. The only press she gets is bad press. The only press he gets is good press. So, when we smarten up and vote for Hillary as a write-in candidate, if necessary, it won’t be us who loses the election for the Democrats, it will be the Democrats, through their arrogance and the media, through their arrogance and through losing sight of what their role in elections is supposed to be, detached observer and reporter. P.S. I gave up the fight for womens’ reproductive rights when NARAL decided to support Barack.
Jean Bolson:
I gave up the fight for womens’ reproductive rights when NARAL decided to support Barack
I’m angry with NARAL too and they’re never going to see another penny of my money, but I hate to see anyone give up on such an important issue. If you are wondering about reproductive rights groups of conscience, Emily’s List is working very hard for Senator Clinton and, to the best of my knowledge, Planned Parenthood has not endorsed either candidate.
As a senior citizen, I remember the pre-Rowe days. I also remember much that women did not have in my youth. We graduated and got married, that’s what was expected of us. If we went to college it was nursing or teaching primarily. Never dreamed of women driving trucks, being Ministers, etc.
That is why I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA. Third party, write in or stay home.
I also have quit the Democratic Party. They are as conniving and crooked as the Republicans. They hand-picked their candidate and will get him nominated over the majority of votes Hillary has gotten.
I am now a very angry old lady with no party unless someone comes to their senses. I think Hillary should take it all the way to the Convention Floor. We’ve had enough. I don’t want to go back to the Fifties.